Alissa Boyer is the founder of the Highly Sensitive and Soulful Membership where she helps other Highly Sensitive People and Empaths experience greater self-love, confidence, and inner peace through spiritual development. She is also a podcaster, writer, and mentor for HSPs and Empaths and she joined me for a conversation about honoring and respecting yourself.
In this episode, Allie and Alissa discuss:
- Highly Sensitive People (HSPs)
- Tools for empowerment
- Listening to your body
- Listening to your feelings
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Hi babe! Welcome to The Purpose Show podcast. I’m super glad that you’re here with me today because my guest is amazing. This conversation is honestly transformative.
Alissa Boyer is an Instagram friend and we’ve really connected over the past year or so. I wanted to have her on to talk about being a sensitive person, being what you may also call an “empath,” and what that looks like.
This is something that I want you to listen to even if you don’t identify as a sensitive person because I think you’re going to be able to hear that maybe you are and you’ve been suppressing it because of the shame around it or because you just haven’t understood it.
Alissa is also a certified Reiki energy healer. She is also the founder of the Highly Sensitive and Soulful Membership where she helps other HSPs and empaths experience greater self-love, confidence, and inner peace through spiritual development. If you haven’t caught on yet, HSP stands for Highly Sensitive Person or Highly Sensitive People.
This is such a grace-filled, encouraging, uplifting conversation. The message here is really about honoring and respecting yourself. I have followed Alissa for a year and I still learned so much in this conversation.
ALLIE: Hey friend! It is so good to see you on the other side of my screen and finally be talking to you like this. We’ve been Instagram friends for a bit.
ALISSA: Yeah, I think it’s been over at least the past year. I’m super excited and thrilled to be here.
ALLIE: Thank you so much. They know what you do, they know the basics, but just tell me more about your work and what you do for people.
ALISSA: I would call myself a mentor and guide for highly sensitive people and empaths. Basically, my work is to help people who identify as being very sensitive, deep feeling, heartfelt human beings. I help them learn how to lean into their sensitivity and use it as a gift and a strength in their lives.
A lot of times people who are very sensitive find that it can be a weakness. We often hear that it’s an undesirable trait. A lot of us grow up living in a very disempowered way.
We don’t know how to manage our sensitivity so we often are taking on emotions from everyone else and feeling drained very easily. My work is really to help those types of people, like myself, really learn how to love and own their sensitivities so that we can be empowered and show up as leaders in the world.
ALLIE: I love that so much. And I love that you come at it with empowerment. What are the “symptoms” or the bullet points of being a highly sensitive person? How do you know if you are an HSP? What does that even really look like?
ALISSA: A highly sensitive person is a personality trait. It was discovered by a therapist named Dr. Elaine Erin in the early nineties. The highly sensitive person is going to be very affected by stimulation. Anything outside of them is going to affect them really strongly.
If you’re the type of person where you hear a loud noise and it just drives you crazy or if you’re wearing a shirt and it’s itchy and you can’t think of anything else, you’re likely an HSP. You’re very much stimulated by everything in your environment. Feeling rushed is also extremely stressful to you. It can be very overwhelming.
HSPs are usually very empathetic people as well. Highly sensitive people have more active mirror neurons in the brain and these neurons are what help us feel empathy for other people. They’ve done research and highly sensitive people literally have more activations, so they’re feeling things that other people are feeling.
The other part that’s really important is that highly sensitive people have very sensitive nervous systems. Everything is magnified. If you’re stressed, you’re going to feel it times ten. If you’re anxious, you’re going to feel it times ten.
Then, there are Empaths. Usually there’s an overlap between HPSs and Empaths. Most of the time, you’re going to be both empathic and a highly sensitive person.
Empaths might not be as stimulated by their environment. They’re going to be more driven by other people’s emotions, moods, or energy. You might know if you’re an empath if someone walks into the room and they’re in a bad mood and you can feel it in your body. You might feel tired, heavy.
ALLIE: When I found you I was really beginning a lot of inner work, which sounds kind of cliche and a little irritating but I don’t know what else to call it when you’re really asking hard questions and growing.
My journey has really been finding out about myself instead of suppressing myself. And I came across your account because I was searching. When I found you, I felt very seen and I felt very understood.
It was really similar to taking a personality test of some kind or astrology or whatever people are into and feeling super understood. Like you’re not messed up, this is just the way that you are. It’s not actually bad, you may just need some further support. I found your page and felt like that.
And I feel all of those things, especially the hypersensitivity. Other people’s energy will enter me if I’m not careful, and it consumes me and I feel it. I’ll cry when another person is telling a story and they’re not even crying yet. It was just these things that honestly felt kind of embarrassing to me.
When I was a kid I was called dramatic a lot by different people in my life and at school. I was told to take it down a notch and relax. There was a lot of shame around that.
As an Enneagram 8, being a really sensitive person is not something that people expect or seem to understand can live together. But they’re not mutually exclusive.
Sometimes it’s hard when you feel like you’re just a mess and you don’t make sense at all. You don’t belong anywhere. None of these personality quizzes are really feeling like they’re fully expressing who you are and you just feel lost.
But I really love how concise you are when you’re communicating what these “symptoms” of being sensitive are, Alissa. I don’t want to say “symptoms” because it sounds like it’s bad or an illness or something.
ALISSA: Oh, thank you for saying that. It’s always been my goal to make other people feel seen and like it’s not a weird or bad thing. You’re not alone. I first learned these terms five or six years ago and it was such a game changer for me.
What I find in talking about my own experience and from talking to others is that the common theme is feeling like you’re too much. You’re too emotional. You’re too sensitive. You’re too dramatic. I heard that growing up all of the time myself.
What I find, and what I’ve experienced myself, is that a lot of sensitive people actually will suppress it. They will actually become hyper overachievers. I’m an Enneagram 3 with a wing 2, but I’m such an achiever.
I will push myself to crazy levels. I think it’s like proving to myself and to others that just because I’m sensitive doesn’t mean I can’t achieve a lot. That can be a double-edged sword too.
It’s really interesting because sensitive people are able to notice more details than other people, just because of the way we’re wired. We’re literally picking up everything around us. That can really work to our benefit in business, in the workplace, and in being a mom.
But this can be hard because since we tend to be good at those types of things, we can push ourselves way too hard and we tend to burn out much more easily. A lot of sensitive people will have chronic health issues or chronic burnout because we’re wanting to push ourselves. And we can, but then we don’t take the rest we need. It’s the common theme I see for sure.
ALLIE: So what does it look like to come into this in an empowering place? A lot of the time the message is coming from a place of victimhood. Can you share about that differentiation and how we’re viewing this? Because perception and perspective is everything.
ALISSA: I think it all starts with learning about what it means. Step number one is getting the awareness that this exists. This is a thing, and other people experience it. I think having that validation is really important.
From there you really want to look at how it’s affected you in your own life. What were the messages that you heard about being sensitive? What did you internalize? Do that inner work and understand how it’s affected you.
Maybe you’ll notice that you’ve picked up people-pleasing tendencies. Maybe you are codependent. Really look at how it affects you.
And then moving forward, knowing how to have the tools to support yourself is literally everything for being an empowered, empathic, sensitive person. That looks like knowing how to take care of your body and eating a certain way.
If you’re a sensitive person you’re most likely going to be extra sensitive to caffeine, sugar, and alcohol. You actually have to watch how you eat because those are going to stimulate you and you’re going to feel worse.
I really don’t eat refined sugar. I avoid it as much as I can. I had to cut out coffee for a few years.
Another way to support yourself is having a spiritual practice of some sort, like a mindfulness practice, meditation, or breath work. If that’s not your thing, maybe just going for quiet walks. If you’re sensitive, your nervous system is very easily ramped up so you really need to know how to get yourself back to that calm, centered space however you can.
Another thing I would say specifically to very empathic people who feel everyone else’s energy is that you really want to have some sort of practice where you have boundaries around your energy. Maybe you’re not scrolling on your phone all of the time. Maybe you’re not responding to texts every hour. Having those practices to really show yourself respect are how you can really be more empowered.
ALLIE: I really like that you talked about ways that you can show yourself respect. That story that I’m too much, too high maintenance, and shouldn’t need this much is always in the back of my mind.
For example, recently I opened up social media to post something. Typically, I will just go on there to post; I don’t really scroll. But I noticed that there was this uproar over another online person of influence. Everyone was posting their opinions and bringing this person down and it was a lot for me.
I immediately felt it in my gut. I immediately felt my stomach hurt. It was very physical for me. It’s always really physical for me. Anxiety or anything negative goes right to my gut.
It was so heavy. Hours later, it was still going around in my mind. I was trying to work, be with my kids, and focus but I couldn’t shake this anxiety.
My thoughts were, What’s happening? The world is so crazy. Is it this easy to get attacked like that? Is this going to happen to me one day? The underlying current of energy that was in those posts entered me and stayed with me.
I love your idea of respecting yourself. It’s not about anything or anyone else. Having respect for myself in that moment would’ve looked like tuning out and turning everything off.
Maybe taking a nap. Praying. Resting. Meditating. Going for a walk. I ended up getting in the sunshine at the beach and just sitting there. It was so good.
But that really affected me. In those moments, what is your advice when you see something, overhear something that triggers that anxious energy.
When you can feel that you’re anxious. You’re shaking. You’re now in a bad mood. The whole cycle. What about then? How do we respect ourselves when it’s done?
ALISSA: What you just outlined for how you reacted is very close to what I would do. It’s important not to judge yourself, and that goes along with self-respect. Don’t judge yourself for reacting strongly. Instead just notice that it’s there and be okay with that. Listen to the signals that your body is giving you.
Sensitive people also have more somatic intelligence. We’re really physically, viscerally feeling things. I can relate to that stomach feeling.
So in that situation, close the app. Do something that gets you feeling grounded and back in your body. Whether that’s going for a walk, going to the beach, taking a nap.
Another thing that I absolutely love and I’m obsessed with is cord cutting meditations. In the meditation you imagine all of these imaginary cords are attached from you to all of the other people that you’ve interacted with, whether in-person or online. You imagine yourself cutting yourself off from them and getting back into your own energy.
No matter what you do, the idea is that you want to get back into your own energy, back into your own body, and get yourself to a place of feeling safe. Because when we’re amped up, really anxious, and feeling sick, our bodies are not feeling safe. Our bodies just need to feel comforted, whatever that looks like for each person.
ALLIE: I love that you mentioned cord cutting. I don’t think I’ve talked about that here on the show, but it’s something that I do regularly.
If you’re not familiar with that, it’s like a mental practice, kind of like a guided meditation. If you’ve ever done a guided meditation on YouTube or the Headspace App, it walks you through using the power of your thought and imagination to give a visual to what’s happened.
When you’re a highly sensitive person or an empath and you’re around another person or you see something even online, you will literally feel heavy. You feel the weight of things because a cord has metaphorically attached to you from the situation. So imagining that happening and then literally seeing yourself cut it, is a very therapeutic way to give a visual for yourself to really release that and feel that it’s done and it’s off of you.
Do you have one that you could give us the link to that you like?
ALISSA: I actually have recorded one. I’ll give you that link.
ALLIE: I want to go back to what you were saying about food. I actually have never heard you talk about this and I’m super excited because this makes so much sense to me.
My body is hypersensitive and I am hypersensitive, so it makes sense. The body keeps the score. The body responds to what’s going on internally.
Can we dive a little bit deeper into that? Maybe give some steps people can take if they’re a busy mom at home, but they’re hearing this and feeling that they’re a highly sensitive person. They’re noticing weight gain and unhealthy habits.
After awareness, what’s the next step? It feels overwhelming to align your food with your sensitivity.
ALISSA: It’s a whole journey. Every diet is going to look different for every single person. I can share my own experience. It was pretty extreme. Actually, that’s what led me into the work I’m doing now.
Five or six years ago, I was working a very, very stressful job and I started developing really bad digestive issues. I had small intestinal bacterial overgrowth and leaky gut.
I could barely eat anything. I was sick constantly. I wasn’t absorbing nutrients in my body. I was always fatigued and had brain fog.
That was my entry point into learning that I was a highly sensitive person, because my diet wasn’t supporting me. I was drinking way too much caffeine. I was in a stressful environment.
The caffeine was exacerbating my anxiety in that environment. I was popping Tums and antacids all of the time, which was screwing with my digestion. I was eating a lot of sugar.
I didn’t know, so it took getting really bad digestive issues to understand that I needed to support myself in a different way. It was really the combination of being sensitive and the way I was eating that manifested into those issues, because like you’re saying, the body keeps the score. If you’re stressed out and frazzled, you’re probably gonna feel it somewhere in your body.
I would say in terms of finding a diet that works for you, start small and definitely don’t overwhelm yourself. Maybe try just cutting out a little bit of added sugar. Try replacing it with honey where you can or maple syrup.
Start small, testing things out, and don’t do a total revamp of your diet right away. If you do you’re just going to feel frustrated and hangry and you’re not going to want to stick with it.
The main things I see are caffeine, sugar, and alcohol for sensitive people. I’m not saying you can’t have any of it. I think it’s different for everyone, but be mindful about how much.
Also maybe keeping a food diary. That was actually one thing that really helped me see how what I ate was connected with how I was feeling. It doesn’t have to be some whole big thing, but just tracking and listening.
ALLIE: Writing it down and seeing it on paper is so different from trying to remember. It’s so helpful.
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ALLIE: What I’m hearing from you is the theme of awareness. Becoming aware of who you are, how you function, and not judging that. Letting it be, respecting it, and then acting out of respect with how you eat, what your lifestyle is, what your spiritual practice is.
Speaking of that, could you go over with us some of what it might look like to have maybe a morning or evening routine, or a spiritual practice during the day that is life-giving for people who are HSP and are wanting to live more in that vibe of self-respect.
ALISSA: I totally respect and understand everyone has varying levels of free time in the morning, so you can take from it what you will. What I will say is that sensitive people are going to get stressed when we’re being rushed or when we have no free time or we’re constantly doing things back to back. Having a morning routine is such a therapeutic, healing, amazing thing to add into your life. It’s literally the sacred part of my day.
When I was working in a corporate office and having to go to work early, I would wake up at 4:45 or 5:00 AM, just so I could have two hours just to be with myself. My morning routine looks like gentle movement of some sort for 20 minutes. I love Pilates and yoga.
Low impact exercise is what does it for me, so I always start with that. I feel like that moves energy in my body.
Then I love to meditate every single day, no exceptions. I meditate for 10 to 20 minutes. I like to use guided meditations. I love the Insight Timer app. YouTube has great meditations. So does Headspace.
And then after that, it’s journaling. I like to just free write whatever came up in my meditation. Or maybe I’m stressed about something and I just need to write it out.
Those are my three things I do every single morning. Then I ease into my day. Just having that time to myself to step into my day, I can respond more rather than react. Whatever happens, I had that time for myself.
ALLIE: I love that. And all of those things could be spread throughout the day if someone’s busy.
I also think it’s interesting when you mentioned low impact movement and more stretching based exercises because that is always what I’m drawn to as well. Brian really enjoys CrossFit. He’s a certified coach. He does it all the time and loves it.
He likes running. He likes really difficult, weightlifting, and high impact stuff. I just cannot even handle that.
And I want to, because my Enneagram 8 is like, “Win! Go! Push!” But everything else is like, “This sucks!”
It really negatively affects me. I don’t lose weight when I do that. My body goes into stress and holds on to everything.
I don’t know if I have PCOS anymore. I really don’t have any symptoms anymore. I think I may have healed it with food, which is awesome. But I have always had PCOS, which is polycystic ovary syndrome.
One year I was pushing and forcing my body, trying to lose weight, and working out like crazy. I actually got way more cystic in my ovaries from that. The doctors said, “This doesn’t make sense. It’s not related.”
But I knew that I wasn’t listening to my body. I’m a sensitive person. My body is sensitive and I’m pushing it, trying to make it something it’s not and it’s literally creating cysts from stress.
I think it’s so beautiful that you listen to your body and that I do as well. If anyone is listening and you’re thinking, Oh my gosh, that’s why I only want to do things that are slow, you can still be at your healthy weight. You can be a healthy person and not do HIIT style workouts if that’s not what floats your boat.
ALISSA: The common theme I’m learning over and over is that just because things work for someone else doesn’t mean they need to work for me. I’m finding my own rhythm and doing things my own way. Everything you share always really supports that too. It gives me that reminder that listening to your body and doing things your own way is the key to feeling good and confident and healthy in your life.
ALLIE: Would you say that all of these things that we’ve talked about are how one could be empowered as a highly sensitive person? Or is there anything more to that? I wanted to have you on the show because you’re passionate about this and you’re not going to come from a place of excuses. This is not an excuse to not live life the way that we’re meant to live it and peel back and go into the corner of the house, not come out, and not deal with anything.”
Everything has been so empowering. But is there anything else, like mindset perspectives for people who are sensitive or empathic that you want to share coming from that place of empowerment?
ALISSA: What I think would be really important to share is the benefits of it. What are the strengths of it? When you know that and understand that it makes you feel really proud to be sensitive. It’s a really cool thing.
Sensitive people tend to be very intuitive because of the way we can feel other people’s emotions and energies. We’re simply able to pick that up. I always feel like we’re more raw. This isn’t a scientific thing, but this is just how I interpret it.
We don’t have as much of a barrier between us and the rest of the world, so we’re just absorbing things. I think that can be really cool because when you start leaning into that and you have those spiritual practices where you’re cutting off your energy and not getting so wrapped up in anxiety, then you actually can be quiet and tune into your intuition, which is so fun and so cool.
I think many sensitive people tend to be excellent caretakers because we have those big hearts. We know how to tune into what people need and really show up in the way that they need and that’s supportive for them. That’s a very special thing as well.
Sensitive people also are really good at noticing patterns and seeing connections that other people don’t see. Historically sensitive people were the advisers. They were the spiritual advisors in some tribes.
We can meet someone and kind of know what their intentions are, get a feeling if we can trust them. We were born with that gift. Sensitive people make up 20% of the population and that’s a needed percentage of the population to be the ones who can vet people out and know if they’re good or not.
Along the same vein, we have emotional intelligence. I think this can be great if you’re a leader or even at home with your kids—knowing how to tap into emotions and sense those social and emotional cues. There’s so much that’s amazing about it.
I think when you know how to support yourself and then you can see those traits within yourself that are really inspiring, positive, and feel good, it makes you proud of it and want to be more of that.
ALLIE: It’s like stepping out of any shame you’ve picked up in your life and your journey from other people. Feeling like you’re too much. Being told you’re too much. Feeling like you’re high maintenance.
That’s a big thing for me too. Yeah, I am high maintenance, and I respect myself enough to block out my mornings and shift my work schedule according to how I need it to be to make me at my optimal emotional health. Moving into this place of almost like ownership and queendom over who you are and what you are, and then aligning things accordingly is such a better way than trying to change.
ALISSA: Oh my gosh, for sure. Every time you do something that supports yourself, it’s like you’re validating your experience. You’re validating yourself. You’re showing yourself that you’re worth it. You deserve to have that experience.
I’m very sensitive about my sleep. I need my space. I can’t have things too loud. That’s my high maintenance thing.
The day before my wedding, one of my girlfriends said, “Oh, we can just share a bed.” And normally I’d say yes, because I have the people-pleaser tendency. But I said, “No,I really need my sleep.”
Times like that where you do advocate for yourself empowers you more because you saw that you’re worth treating yourself the way you know you need to be treated.
ALLIE: When I’m going to go to something, it doesn’t matter if it’s a big event or if it’s just a small get-together, being around other people is so much for me. I actually really like it. I like talking to people. But when I’m around people, it’s a lot energetically for me and it just sucks the life out of me if I’m not careful.
My weird little thing is that when I’m driving to an event, I need to drive alone. I will spend extra money. I will rent a separate car.
Brian doesn’t count. Brian is like this warm energy that I always want to be around. I’m good with that. He’ll let me have silence if I need it.
But when it’s someone else suggests driving together, I can’t. Driving to do something, driving somewhere new, especially if it’s unfamiliar, I just need that time to prepare and mentally protect myself.
We talked about the cord cutting meditation, but those self-protection guided meditations are the same thing. Use the power of your thought and your imagination to envision protection over yourself. I’ll pray, prepare myself, get grounded in my own energy, and not being as absorbent as normal.
And that takes preparation. I can’t be listening to music or chit-chatting on the way. It’s weird. And it’s kind of expensive sometimes when we’re traveling and there are rental cars involved.
If you can support yourself and you can respect yourself enough, it’s so worth it because I show up at the event and I’m my best self. I’m so on. I’m so grounded. I’m so ready to show up.
I liked that you gave that example about sleeping and now I added one and people can feel like they’re not a freaks if they’re like that. They’re just sensitive.
ALISSA: Totally. Own it. I love it. That’s such a good example.
ALLIE: I know that you are getting ready to launch a podcast. You have some amazing resources. I know you have an amazing membership that you really pour a lot into. I see you the way you talk about them. I relate to that and you seem to love your audience so much.
Tell us about your podcast that you’re working on. Tell us about your membership and where people can go if they want to take the next step in figuring this all out.
ALISSA: I’ve wanted to start a podcast for quite a while, but I just haven’t done it. I feel like there’s so much to say about sensitivity and being an empath. I want to share that message with people.
That will be coming out sometime this summer 2021. I’m super excited about that. I hope you’ll tune in.
And I have a membership community for highly sensitive people and empaths. I believe that for sensitive people, personal development and spiritual growth looks a little different based on all of the things we talked about today—protecting our energy and needing to have good boundaries around ourselves and things like that. I teach about all of that in my membership community.
We focus on different topics each month like people-pleasing, focusing on how to lean into your intuition, things like that. That’s a beautiful community that I’m really, really proud of.
The final thing I would add that might be kind of fun is I have this quiz you can take. It’s an Empath Archetype Quiz. You take it and it tells you what your main archetype is, what your main strength as an empath is. Is it your intuition? Your caretaking? Your emotional intelligence? Your creative streak? Those are some of the resources I offer.
ALLIE: I love that. Thank you for the work that you do. It’s so beautiful and so supportive. I just love you so much. Your love of people and your love of yourself really comes through. I’m super grateful that you shared this space with me. Thank you so much.
Everyone go and follow Alissa on Instagram. We will link to everything that she mentioned, especially that archetype quiz. Thank you so much.
ALISSA: Thank you, Allie. This was amazing.
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