Tanya Dalton is back on the show today and we’re talking about her new book On Purpose – The Busy Woman’s Guide To An Extraordinary Life Of Meaning And Success and the actionable strategies women can use to find their purpose. Let’s jump in!

In this episode Allie and Tanya discuss: 

• Four Strategies for Finding Purpose 
• Knowing Your Season 
• Releasing Guilt
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Mom life. We’re surrounded by the message that it’s the tired life. The no-time-for-myself life. The hard life. We’re supposed to get through it. Survive. Cling on by the last little thread. And at the same time, Carpe Diem—enjoy every moment because it’s going to go by so fast. The typical mom culture that sends us all kinds of mixed, typically negative messages. We shouldn’t take care of ourselves; it’s selfish. The more ragged you run yourself, the bigger your badge of honor. But also, ditch your mom bod and work out. Don’t yell. Make more money. Show up. Be better, but not at the expense of time with your kids. I am putting a hard stop to all of this. While being a mom, running a business, and whatever else you might have going on is hard, it is a lot and there’s lots of giving of yourself, the idea that motherhood means living a joyless, nonstop-hustle-with-zero-balance kind of life, where you give and give and give and never take, needs to stop. 

I’m on a mission to help you stop counting down the minutes till bedtime (at least most days). Stop the mom guilt and shame game. Stop cleaning up after your kids’ childhood and start being present for it. I want to help you thrive in work, home and life. I believe in John 10:10 that we are called to living an abundant life and I know moms are not excluded from that promise. Join me in conversations about simplicity, some business and life hacks, spirituality and lots of other good stuff that leads to a life of less for the sake of enjoying more in your motherhood. I’m Allie Casazza and this is The Purpose Show.

Hello, my love! Welcome to The Purpose Show podcast. I’m Allie. I’m so excited to be hanging out with you today. 

We’re going to jump right in because I have an amazing conversation that I really think is going to bring you guys so much clarity. This episode is for you, whether you are a stay-at-home mom, a working mom, or just a human being that needs clarity in finding your purpose. 

My friend, Tanya Dalton is back on the show today. I believe we’ve done two other episodes together for The Purpose Show in the past and they’re so good. One of them in particular is probably one of our most downloaded episodes about how to run a business and get things done when you have little kids at home. If you need that in your life, you can find it here. 

Tanya is a bestselling author, speaker, sought-after-business coach for women entrepreneurs, and a nationally recognized productivity expert. She serves as a growth strategist for female leaders in the corporate and entrepreneurial sectors. Her 12-month mentorship program, The Intentional CEO, helps female entrepreneurs grow thriving businesses and thriving personal lives. 

On top of having her book, The Joy Of Missing Out, which was named one of the top 10 business books of 2019 by Fortune magazine, Tanya’s podcast, The Intentional Advantage is ranked among the top 50 in the self-improvement category on iTunes. 

She is the founder and CEO of Inkwell Press Productivity Co, which is a mulit-million dollar company providing tools that work as a catalyst in helping women do less while achieving maximum success. Basically, Tanya is a badass. She’s amazing. 

She’s a dear friend of mine that I now get to live next to. (Yay!) We actually had lunch the other day and she’s just amazing. She’s such a good human. She cares so much about women, about her listeners, her audience. She pours her entire heart out and we connected on that. 

So many times in this space we’ll meet people that do what we do and you can just tell right away that it’s fake. It’s inauthentic. It’s not real. And it’s such a huge bummer. 

Tanya and I met in a group of people, all meeting together, masterminding and growing their businesses. We connected because we saw in each other that we really, really, really care about the root of the problem, about diving in for people, figuring out the hard things for people, doing the work for them, and then selling them that strategy to change their lives. 

That’s what our businesses do. That’s what they’re based off of. And we really, really care. 

If you are looking for someone authentic, Tanya is your girl. Please welcome my friend back to the show and enjoy this really, really actionable conversation on getting to the bottom of what you really want and where you’re going in life.

ALLIE: Hello, my friend, and welcome back! 

TANYA: I’m so excited to be here!

ALLIE: Yes! I love talking to you. I love that you are a winning woman in the male dominated productivity space. I love that you talk about everything being infused with purpose and doing things with intention. And you’re not just saying that because those are buzzwords, but you’re also showing us how to do that. 

I just read your book, On Purpose – The Busy Woman’s Guide To An Extraordinary Life Of Meaning And Success. It’s so good. I love that your book has a ton of visuals, which is rare, incredibly helpful, and hard to do with a book that’s emotional and spiritual. 

You give visuals, which is so helpful, especially for someone like me. That’s how I learn and it’s normally not there. I feel like you added little details into the book that really helped seal the ideas in. You did such a good job.

TANYA: Thank you! That’s the whole point, right? I want people to close the cover of the book when they finish reading and think, “Okay, I’m ready to take action. I know what to do. I’m excited. I understand.”

I think so often in a lot of these books that we read, it’s “Rah! Rah! You can do it!,’ but then we think, “Okay, but how? Great. I’m glad I’m inspired, but now what?” 

I like to make sure that it’s got lots of actionable strategies, but also lots of visuals to really bring a lot of those points home because some of it is abstract. It’s a little bit like you have to think about it. Having a visual just brings it all kind of home.

ALLIE: It totally did. It’s really tactical for things that are not always that way. It’s a lot of mindset ideas but you’re giving it a visual. It’s just so helpful. I think the way that your brain works as a teacher is so helpful for people that really, really want to do the thing and don’t know how to take that first step, so good job!

TANYA: Thank you! Yeah, I want people to do the thing. That’s what I want. 

That’s the whole reason why I sat there on the couch day after day writing this book, right? This is why I’m writing it. You know how hard it is. It’s a labor of love to write a book and this is the second time I’ve written one.

I want people to take the book and I want them to run with it. I want them to feel like they can do this! I love that you feel that way.

ALLIE: This book is basically divided into four focus areas: Reflection, Projection, Action, and Alteration. Could you give us a quick summary for anyone whose questioning whether they need another book to read?

This is one of those books that you know is going to make you change something, do something, and rework how things are going. Sometimes I avoid getting a book like that or reading it because I just feel like I can’t take it on, but I know that if I get it and do it, I’m going to be able to do more of what matters and live so much lighter.

Maybe give a little bit of an explanation of those four sections and what they are and why they’re important. 

TANYA: I think you’re right. A lot of times we’re afraid to do the growth-work that we need to do because it’s work. So it’s really is about making it bite-size and achievable. 

The four sections of the book are: Reflection, Projection, Action, and Alteration. 

Reflection is where we start. Reflection is basically the fact that we need to look backwards in order to move forward. That can be a little bit difficult for people to do because sometimes the things behind us are filled with trauma. The past can be filled with things that we think are failures or are things that we don’t really like. 

But that’s so incredibly powerful. It’s actually the things that we don’t like that help show us the life that we want, so it’s good to reflect. 

A lot of times we have to look backwards in order to see how far we’ve come, in order to see how far we can actually go in life, so it’s really powerful. It also shows us what we don’t want. It really answers that question of why we want what we want. 

From Reflection we move into Projection. Projection answers the question, What does it look like? 

What does this ideal life of mine look like? What does the future look like? With projection, it really is about discovering what it is that you want. It’s about redefining success on your own terms and not worrying about what your best friend, your mother, the neighbor across the street, or that mom down the road is doing. 

What do you want? Then we talk about some strategies and some ways to really laser in and focus on what it is that you want.

Then we get to Action. Action answers the question, How? Now that I know what I want, how am I going to get there? I need to know the steps I need to take in order to get to the success that I want. 

We take that idea of action, which can be filled with fear (we have a whole chapter on fear), filled with excuses (ex: I don’t have the time, which is why there’s a chapter on how to create the time), and filled with uncertainty and we talk about creating an action plan for yourself. 

The last section is Alteration, which answers the question What if? What if life happens and I get off track? What if I need flexibility? 

Here’s a spoiler alert: We all need flexibility; We all need grace.

What do we do when we get off track? What do we do when there’s a detour in the well-laid plans that we have? The truth is that it’s the detours in our life that really get us to the life we’re meant to be having. It’s oftentimes the things we didn’t expect on that path that are the beautiful moments. 

The book goes through those four sections starting with Why? (Reflection), getting to what you want (Projection), telling you How (Action), and then (Alteration) for the What-if-life-happens-moments.  Let’s figure out what to do from there.  Let’s turn our obstacles into opportunities.

ALLIE: I feel like this book is about getting clarity on what’s happened, why you work the way you work, and why things are going the way they’re going. This is not a book about work. It is a book about life. 

It is for stay-at-home moms. It is for corporate people. It is for anyone, everyone, and everything in-between. It is literally a bringer of clarity. That is what I took from it. 

One of the things that you say often in this book, especially in one particular section is, We are filling our calendars, but are we filling our souls? 

How do we fill our souls? By finding our purpose. And I want to know from you, what does purpose mean to you exactly?

TANYA: I love that question because I feel like the word purpose can feel really heavy. It can feel really daunting like it defines you now and forever, so we put it off.

ALLIE: It has a bunch of expectations on it: I’m not sure; I don’t want to label it or claim that because what if I change my mind; what if I have to live up to that now?  

TANYA: Right, exactly. So I like to say living on purpose isn’t about changing who you are. It’s rising up and becoming the best version of you. It’s truly about living bigger than today. It’s really understanding that the actions we take today have a profound effect on who we are a week down the road, 10 weeks down the road, 10 years down the road. 

When we tie our actions of today to something bigger—bigger than today, something in the future, a big vision for ourselves or a purpose—we feel so much more satisfaction. We feel happier with our days. We feel like the work we do matters. And that’s when we go to bed at night feeling like today was a good day. 

We’re ending far too many days thinking we didn’t do enough, even though we chase busy and we’re doing a million things. We’ve talked about that in the past, this whole idea of chasing down to-do lists, doing all the things, and wearing ourselves out. And yet, we feel unsatisfied. 

We feel like we didn’t do enough, even though we’re exhausted and worn out. We feel like we didn’t have enough time to do the things we needed to do.

And that’s why I get into that whole idea of wayfinding—looking far into the future and then backtracking to see what actions you can take this month, this week, this day that are going to really get you closer to that bigger vision. That’s when we start feeling really fulfilled. 

I love the word satisfaction. That feeling of being satisfied is really powerful. And that’s what happens when you live towards your purpose and you live on purpose.

ALLIE: What about people listening that may feel like they don’t know what their purpose is? They are so disconnected from themselves. They are so disconnected from God or their idea of who God is, whatever that means for them. They don’t even know what to put on their vision board if they were going to make one. They’re just so broken apart from that.

I get messages like this all the time and I feel so connected to those people. I can just feel that ache. What about that? I honestly think women need permission to say they’re dissatisfied with motherhood and with life. 

What if you don’t know your purpose? What would you say to that girl who is saying, “Please tell me. I don’t know how to even start this.”

TANYA: I like that question because, first of all, it really normalizes that you’re not alone if you feel like you don’t know what your purpose is and you don’t know where you want to go in five years, let alone five weeks. And you feel really uncertain and wonder if there is there something wrong with you. 

I would say, no, there’s nothing wrong with you. 

ALLIE: It’s one of the top five questions I get on a weekly basis. So, you’re definitely not alone. 

TANYA: I’ve been through that myself numerous times where I’ve wondered, What am I here for? Is this really what it’s all about? 

I talked about that some in the book. Lying in bed at night, counting down the red hours on the clock and wondering if this is this all there is. 

That’s why we start with reflection, because we feel like we’re starting with a blank page. But you’re not. 

It is so easy to lose our identity, especially as we step into motherhood. I think there is this thing within us and within society that’s like, Now you’re a mom. This should be it. This should totally fulfill you. 

And when it doesn’t, we feel guilty. We feel terrible. We think, Does this make me a bad mom? Does this make me a bad person? 

It doesn’t. It just means you were meant for more. If our purpose really was just to be moms, we’d be flies. We would have kids, raise them up, and then die. But we are meant for so much more than that. So, using reflection is where we start.

I like to say that the places we don’t like in our past, that’s really the most fertile ground of all. What are the things that we regret? What are the things that we don’t like that happened in our past? 

We can push against regret so much stronger than we can push towards pleasure. We will move away from regret much faster than we will move towards pleasure. 

What are the things that you have experienced in the past year that you didn’t like, that you’d like to change? What are the things that you don’t like about your identity right now? What are the things that you’d really like to lean into? 

Also reflecting back even further back to your childhood, who were you as a child? What were the things that you were passionate about? And not just like, I was passionate about playing softball. 

What was it about playing softball? Was it the competition? Was it working in teams? Was it being outside? 

What are the things that you really loved before you had kids, before that whole shroud of adulthood hits you? You and I have kids of similar ages. I have Kate who’s 14 and she had all these big visions and things, and I feel like they got squashed. 

They go to middle school and all of a sudden things aren’t cool anymore. You can’t talk about certain things. 

That happens to us, too. Let’s go back and revisit before that all happened. What were the things that we really loved? What did you want to be when you grew up? Why did you want to be that?

What if it was Wonder Woman? That seems silly, right? But maybe it’s not so silly. 

Was it because she stood for truth and justice? Was it because she empowered a whole generation of girls to grow up and feel like they could do whatever they wanted to do? What was it about the thing you wanted that made you want it? Get back into that! 

I like to tell people to give yourself that space. When I say, the first thing people say is, I don’t have time for that. 

Give yourself 15 minutes. Put it on your planner. Put it in your calendar. 

15 minutes a day for two weeks just to think back on who you were as a child. Set a timer for 15 minutes. You can do that. 

ALLIE: A great time to do things like that, for me, is when I’m falling asleep. It’s actually a really beneficial time because you’re kind of getting your subconscious to go there, and while you sleep, your subconscious is pulling those things up, so you may wake up with clarity.

TANYA: Absolutely. Our brain continues to work even when we’re not thinking about it. This is why it’s great to do it over the course of a couple of weeks because as you have thought about it for a couple of days, your brain is continuing to work on it. 

This is why we come up with genius ideas in the shower, right? Or while we’re driving the carpool, waiting in the carpool line to pick up our kids, and things like that. In these quiet moments, our brain has been working the whole time on that issue or that problem. 

If we spend time for a week or two, your brain is going to start making these connections. And all of a sudden you’re going to be thinking of things. And when that happens, that’s your intuition. That’s that quiet voice inside your head, not the jerk who tells you that you need to lose weight or that you’re not good enough, but that quiet, positive voice inside your head. 

That’s your intuition. That’s your voice that says, Oh, this is connected to this. Oh, look how we liked this before. Then we start to build on that. 

You never have a blank page. I think that’s the most important thing for people to remember. It doesn’t have to be daunting.

There is no right or wrong with your purpose. It can shift. It can change. It can evolve. And that’s a good thing. 

We are not the same people we were 5 years ago, 10 years ago, sometimes 5 weeks ago. Don’t feel like it’s a one and done. It’s not a Crock-Pot. It’s not set it and forget it. It’s going to change. It’s going to evolve. 

ALLIE: And that removes the pressure from purpose. 

I also want to circle back to what we were talking about with being a mother and not being satisfied with that because you’re not just meant to do that and if you were you’d be like a fly. 

I want to clarify and bring this to light for women because this has been my story and I was reading an article about Joanna Gaines and she was saying the same thing: It doesn’t mean that you have to be doing something outside of motherhood at the same time as being a mother. There are seasons. 

There was a season for me when I knew with every fiber of my being that I was supposed to be a stay-at-home mom. Even though it was hard and I was struggling with a lot of feelings and it was leading into a lack of fulfillment that ultimately came to a head and led me to start my business. 

I knew I was supposed to be a stay-at-home mom. And it was great! It was hard, messy, and beautiful in different ways than my life is now. 

That’s why I brought up Joanna Gaines, because she was saying the same thing. There was a period of her life where she was like, This is all I thought I would ever do. This is where I was meant to be. 

And then that shifted. I know it shifted for you too, Tanya, and me.  

So I just want to clarify. We’re definitely not saying that you’re not supposed to just be a mom and if you are just a mom right now, you need to find your purpose. No! 

Know your seasons. Know yourself. Know how to follow that inner guidance, that nagging feeling that may come up eventually or may already be there, that’s telling you, I really just want to do something else too. 

And don’t feel guilty about that. But also don’t feel guilty when you’re in the “just-a-mom” season, because you’re not just a mom. 

TANYA: That’s the biggest fallacy, right? The biggest fallacy. It really is about doing life on your terms. 

There’s nothing wrong with saying, I love being a stay-at-home mom. I get so frustrated when I hear feminists saying, You can’t just be a mom. If that fulfills you, if you absolutely love it, good! 

Do it. Be the best stay-at-home mom that you can possibly be. If that doesn’t fulfill you and you’re ready for something else, go do that. 

That’s really what empowerment is all about. It’s not about doing what everybody else is doing. It’s doing what fulfills you. 

When we take care of ourselves and we take care of our own needs, we are better suited to take care of everybody else’s needs. We become a better mom when we take care of ourselves. 

I wish that we could just take guilt off the table. I feel like they hand over that baby in the hospital room with this giant bundle of mom guilt that tells you, This should fulfill you. This should be enough. Anything you do is going to be wrong. It doesn’t matter what it is.

Guilt doesn’t serve us. It doesn’t do anything for us. Humans are the only animals that experience guilt. 

When the leopard misses catching the antelope it doesn’t feel guilty. It doesn’t beat itself up afterwards. It just tries again. 

Guilt doesn’t serve us. We need to do what we can to just let go of that guilt. That’s an easy thing to say, but a difficult thing to do. I know because I’m a mom and I constantly am battling against guilt and feeling like I should have done things differently. 

I love what you said there: Embrace the season you’re in. I had a season where I was a stay-at-home mom. I loved it. It was wonderful. 

Then that season changed. My needs changed. What I wanted in life changed. 

ALLIE: I was fine. I woke up one day and I felt this feeling that I never had felt before. I had all these thoughts swirling in my head. I thought, I wonder what would I even do if I followed this though? Over the next year, it just unfolded and started into what it is now. 

Never say never. Never box yourself in. Don’t make your identity about your circumstances because that’s not your identity, that’s your circumstance and you never know when you’re going to get a pull to something different. Stay flexible, stay open, and stay connected to yourself so that you’re aware of what’s going on. 

I want to talk about the difference between a lack of fulfillment in where you are in life and just having a really, really hard season, or having a chronic problem that needs to be solved that you’re just not seeing. Does that make sense? How do you know if you’re not fulfilled and you need to make a shift or if you’re just having a really hard time?

TANYA: I feel like you start to know that you need to make a shift if you’re getting this deeper kind of ache or tug or pull on you where it’s just this very nagging sense of dissatisfaction. It’s not even unhappiness. It’s dissatisfaction. It’s lying in bed thinking, Is this all that there is? It’s not thinking, Gosh, this is hard.

Here’s one of the biggest lies we are told: If you do what you love, you’re going to love it and you are never going to work a day in your life. That is not the truth. I love what I do. Allie, you love what you do. But we have days where we feel like it is so hard. 

I certainly don’t enjoy paying taxes or filing paperwork, or doing any of those kinds of things. There are parts of your job that you’re not going to love. 

It’s not about having a couple of days where you feel like, I’m really unsatisfied. This is not really what I wanted to do. 

We all have that. That’s just normal. That’s part of daily life. But we don’t want to have more of those days than happy days. 

If we’re starting to see that more days are shifting into this dissatisfaction, this sense of unhappiness where you feel like there’s more, if we’re having more days like that than days where we feel satisfied, that’s when it’s usually an indicator that we need to make a shift and start thinking about it.

What would this look like? What can I do? Spending that 15 minutes a day for a couple of weeks. Just because you spend that 15 minutes doesn’t mean you’re going to actually shift and totally pivot 180 degrees. It might mean you just need to make a couple of little tweaks. 

That’s what it’s all about. It’s not about that you have to constantly be totally changing who you are. Sometimes it’s what I call small, huge movements. Simple to implement, easy to manage, but monumental in the impact they can make. 

A lot of times in life it is just these tiny little tweaks that we can make that adjust our happiness levels. And they’re so easy to do. We have to stop, realize, and recognize that we have a choice, that we can choose to shift things around. 

That’s the heart of the book. It’s all about the choices we make. The daily choices.

ALLIE: Would you say that breaking it down into just 15 minutes of quiet reflection a day is how you reflect to get to the bottom of who you are, what you’re aligned with, and what you want? Or is there anything else you would add to that?

TANYA: I get into this exercise in the book called The Fifth Why where we ask the questions, Why am I unsatisfied? or, Why am I not happy? We give an answer and it’s a surface level answer. 

We want to channel our inner 2-year-old/3-year-old and ask, Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? We always want to go a little bit deeper. Why do I feel this way? Answer, and then go deeper.

Let’s say you’re feeling unsatisfied. Ask, Why am I feeling unsatisfied? Get the answer and then ask, Why am I feeling that? Than ask again, Why am I feeling that? 

We ask why again and each time we ask we’re getting deeper and deeper to the heart of why we feel the way we do. I call it The Fifth Why because it’s when you get to Why Number Five that you really get to the root cause of the unhappiness. 

I do The Fifth Why for gratitude sometimes. What am I really grateful for? I’m not just grateful for John bringing me lunch; I’m really grateful that John loves me and supports me in those things. 

When we asked that question, Why?, it just allows us to go deeper. The Fifth Why allows us to go deeper without going so deep that we get caught in a rabbit hole where we could ask why forever. We’ve had 2 & 3-year-olds, so we know that you can ask why for forever. 

Really get into understanding why you’re unhappy, and then start asking that question again and again. One of the most powerful things you can do when you’re reflecting is getting to that root cause. 

When you peel back that bandage, it can be painful because it doesn’t look good. It doesn’t look pretty. We’d rather hide it away. But when we allow those wounds to get air and to heal, that’s when we really start moving towards the life we want.

ALLIE: I think also one really, really important thing for me is that performing comes so naturally to me and my personality type that sometimes in my reflection I find myself—my ego mind—performing to my own self. But I think it’s really important to be really raw with yourself when you’re doing The Fifth Why exercise. 

I’m glad you brought that up because that was my next question for you. I think it’s my favorite concept in the entire book. I think it’s an actual game changer.

For example, if you’re just dissatisfied with your life and you’re trying to figure out why, it’s okay to say something that’s not pretty. It’s okay to let out the ugly truth. It’s okay to say, I just feel like I am made for more than just wiping noses and cleaning up messes. 

That doesn’t diss motherhood. That doesn’t diss being a stay-at-home mom. That doesn’t mean anything about anything else. You need to feel safe in your own mind to speak your truth. 

I kept myself from that for so long because of conditioning. I was raised to think, That’s too far. You’re too much. Reel it in. Wow, Allie. Too much. And I was doing that with my own frigging self.

I just want to validate that your feelings are valid, even if it is overdramatized because of where you’re at emotionally. It’s beyond fine. You have to let it all out. You have to say what you mean, like clearing that throat, and just letting it out. You have to get it out.

TANYA: Otherwise it’s festering.

ALLIE: You’re not being real with yourself. 

TANYA: And then, what happens is we’re bottling things up. We’re bottling, we’re bottling, and the pressure builds. Then all of a sudden, one day we blow up. We lose it. Then we’re like, Oh my God, what did I just do? 

It’s really incredibly healthy to have these thoughts. It really is. I love what you said there about feeling safe to say those things to yourself. 

If you struggle with that, finding a trusted counselor, therapist, or friend that you can talk these things out with without worrying about judgment is incredibly powerful as well. Allow yourself to peel back those layers, peel back the bandages, and look at the wounds and acknowledge them. 

When we hide it away, when we squirrel it away like our kids do when they clean their room and they just shove everything underneath the bed, it’s still there. The room stinks because there’s dirty laundry shoved underneath the bed. 

It’s the same thing with our emotional baggage. We can’t just shove it underneath the bed and pretend it’s not there. We need to take it out. We need to air it out. 

In that pile of junk, trash, and dirty laundry, there are treasures. There are amazing treasures to be found. And that is how we begin to heal. That is how we begin to move forward. That is how we step into our purpose, wholly, fully and authentically. 

I cannot stress enough that it is so important to you feeling so comfortable in your own skin. That’s really what life is about. It’s about feeling good, confidently being authentically yourself. That’s really what I want for women—to step into living a life on purpose.

ALLIE: I love that. Yes to all of that!

Guys, go order yourself this book: On Purpose – The Busy Woman’s Guide To An Extraordinary Life Of Meaning And Success. Get some massive clarity on who you are and why, where you want to go, and how to get there. 

The book is so actionable and super bite-sized. You can take it one section at a time and just really understand. It’s not just saying, Go reflect. It’s telling you how to reflect and what questions to ask. It’s such a deep dive that doesn’t feel overwhelming. Go order it wherever you get your books.

Tanya,, thank you so much for shining a light on this. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and your expertise. I appreciate you so much.

TANYA: Thank you so much for having me. This was fun. It’s always fun getting to chat with you.

ALLIE: Every time. I love you so much. 

Thanks so much for hanging out with me! In case you didn’t know, there’s actually an exclusive community that’s been created solely for the purpose of continuing discussions around The Purpose Show episodes. It’s designed to get you to actually take action and make the positive changes that we talk about here. I want you to go and be a part of it. To do that, go to alliecasazza.com/facebookgroup. 

Thank you so much for tuning in! If you’d like to learn more about me, how I can help you, how you can implement all these things and more into your life to make it simpler, better, and more abundant, head to alliecasazza.com. There are free downloads, online courses, programs, and other resources to help you create the life you really want. 

I am always rooting for you, friend! See you next time! I’m Allie Casazza and this is The Purpose Show.

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